Subaru's NEW Boxer Engine - The Science EXPLAINED

30 giu 2020
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The Subaru WRX STI is getting a new engine in 2022 and its the engine out of an SUV? how can this 260hp FA24 from the Ascent become the 400hp busier of a boxer that will power the new JDM Rally bred beast? We break this block down to its basic parts and explain just how Subaru is gonna get more horsepower than they’ve ever given the STI out of this new platform. so stop in for an inside look at Subaru’s new FA24 Engine.

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  • What are your thoughts on the switch to the FA24? Should they put it in the BRZ?

    Donut MediaDonut Media5 mesi fa
    • @G M97 the spirit of a brz is a ho hum wanna bee in an Asian drifter ..that should have never happened ..but instead more like need for speed Tokyo drift vin diesel rocket bunny

      donnie bakerdonnie baker4 giorni fa
    • Should of been done to the very 1st BRZ along with a turbo and Rocket Bunny wide body kit and big wide tires and everything ,cuz I need it i want it got to hav it , cuz I'm a highway star

      donnie bakerdonnie baker4 giorni fa
    • Isnt the new brz getting this same engine? Imagine being able to have a 400hp car at 2700lbs now thats whats i wanna hear

      R PR P8 giorni fa
    • @G M97 This is what happened

    • @G M97 OK Marty McFly where's your DeLorean :-)

      Jochen L.Jochen L.10 giorni fa
  • May the head flow freely for us all!

    Cody WolfordCody Wolford2 giorni fa
  • 22B was the best engine from Subaru,today’s we only got junks out there

    JnagimeJnagime2 giorni fa
  • The WRX STI S209 has 341 hp stock

    Gid KipGid Kip2 giorni fa
  • I am not sure if the oiling system is better in the fa20dit compared to the fa20. If the system in the fa24 is the same as the fa20 it won't matter how awesome the internals are in the new motor. The fa20 in the brz doesn't hold consistent oil pressure at high rpms. If you're racing one you will not know how long it will hold up until you spin a main bearing. They have three ports feeding four main bearings. I am hoping the new one has a much better designed system for high rpm, high lateral G driving, and with the temperatures in mind that come with tracking one for a day.

    B KB K3 giorni fa
  • DI is not without issues.. look it up and unfortunately this informative video lacks in informing of carbon buildup and injectors failing much more often.

    Sam SpectorSam Spector3 giorni fa
  • Direct injection is not better for engine health. It gunks up the heads faster. Gasoline is corrosive so having port injection the gas flows over the intake valves and cleans them... port injected engines last a lot longer than direct injected engines... not to mention direct injected engines have crazy high fuel pressure, up to 15,000. They will say oh it cools the cylinder wall and does this to make you think they are doing it for reliability reasons when in reality they are trading longevity for couple mpg

    android 95203android 952034 giorni fa
  • But it will dissolve the lubricant in the cylinder! How about that.

    George ZunigaGeorge Zuniga5 giorni fa
  • Di= gonna need walnut blasting

    BasketcaseBasketcase6 giorni fa
  • still casted engine block. still sucks. give us forged internals already

  • I need to put a FA24 motor in my 2020 Forester Sport. Seeing as someone was able to fit it in the Crosstrek, it has to be able to fit in mine right?

    JayjayyyoJayjayyyo7 giorni fa
  • do you like CVT belt Subarus?

    lee shaferlee shafer7 giorni fa
  • I wish Subaru's all future models are equipped with six-cylinder boxer engines. The constellation with the six-cylinder boxer engine basically means a vibration-free internal combustion piston engine. In addition, I think that the six-cylinder boxer engine creates a pleasant and harmonious sound (Porsche), which comes out of the exhaust pipe. The only disadvantage of a six-cylinder boxer engine compared to a four-cylinder boxer engine is a higher production cost.

    Stefan WendelStefan Wendel8 giorni fa
  • Are you Tom Brady's little brother?

    GuardrailGuardrail8 giorni fa
  • Still waiting for the honey dripping tool

    Aki MartiskainenAki Martiskainen9 giorni fa
  • I got 50k in the pocket to spend in one of those new lil devils next year. :) If COVID doesn't break me, by the end of 2021 I will get my 2022 sub FA sti. :)

    Ailison Rocha de CarvalhoAilison Rocha de Carvalho9 giorni fa
  • Who here is coming from 2022 BRZ vids?

    Jey DozaJey Doza9 giorni fa
  • this is the 2nd video tonight that says the crank hp is power to the wheels aka what you would measure on a dyno , both on 4 wheel drive cars. Someone may be disappointed when they find out 25% less on an actual 4 wheel drive dyno after all parasitic drive and rotational momentum losses.

    Derek SomedaDerek Someda10 giorni fa
  • Let's just hope they fix the free-floating rocker issue!

    Denstoj Auto CentreDenstoj Auto Centre10 giorni fa
  • Has anyone tested the limits to the 2.4L yet? I would LOVE to se the sti get it because that means the outback can get all the same mods. Oh boi. A 350+ hp wagon would be sweet. Lower that bittie a good 2ins and put some sweet wheels on it. Oh gawd, 2020 outback "sti" here i come.

    Shawn WarnickShawn Warnick11 giorni fa
  • what about the head gasket issues? did they resolve that?

    kchingkkchingk12 giorni fa
  • DI injection is old hat for many competitors at this point. Subaru is playing catch up and knew they had to do it as well for the fuel economy gains as well as the increased power it provides. What is the downside? Manufacturers are not very good at telling owners in their owners manuals that they need to clean their cylinder valves from carbon buildup. Some DI engines still spray both port and direct, and those don't have as much carbon buildup over time. In any case, to be safe, every 30,000 miles one should clean their valves with BG products or something similar to make sure the carbon does not build up and reduce engine power and performance.

    Sam SSam S13 giorni fa
  • F A - F*cking AWESOME !

    pablo ragespablo rages13 giorni fa
  • Glad to see Tom DeLonge landed himself a nice gig out here on ITworlds.

    Diego AmadorDiego Amador13 giorni fa
    • Dude I was thinking the same thing

      Oliver WrightOliver Wright11 giorni fa
  • Not only the dual fuel injection system is good for cold starts but it also helps to reduce carbon build up on the intake valve.

    rgbigdogrgbigdog13 giorni fa
  • So what you’re basically saying is all the soccer moms out there right now the endurance 😝 Subarus well they’re like giant Legos anyway trust me look what I drive there in my little picture, I daily drive the 3.6 flat six and I skated by all the dang oil issues, Head gasket issues ect..

    Tim BrownTim Brown14 giorni fa
  • Great and entertaining video...but with one small nit pick about the new connecting rods being better able to handle the combustion pressures. Granted they're much beefier, but the combustion pressure isn't what makes a rod fail. Even the crappiest rod is able to withstand the compressive force the engine can make, the failures happen in two ways most of the time. At the end of the exhaust stroke the piston must be stopped then pulled back downward all by the cap and rod bolts.... the rest of the time there's force pushing the rod into the crank and the cap does little work. On an over-rev the rod bolts can stretch and this is why bearings spin when they're no longer being compressed within the big end. The other way is when the rod bends and this is often because the little end tightens up and won't allow the articulation needed to go up and down. Detonation can deform the piston pin bore and seize the pin which will destroy a pressed type pin, but a full floating type still can live because it will continue to move in the rod end...but this has limitations and when the pin can't turn any more the rod bends back and forth a few times until it snaps. Stretching a rod can let the piston hit the head which will tighten the little end and break the rod too. Big beefy rods have lots of room for big beefy bolts...which is good.

    Recoil RobRecoil Rob14 giorni fa
  • Is it even a rally car. I didn't see any fog lights.

    Christian BrunerChristian Bruner14 giorni fa
  • so your telling me i could make my 2017 legacy go vroom with stustustustu sounds and make 350+ hp

    nathan maxfieldnathan maxfield14 giorni fa
  • 4:11 Direct fuel injection cools the cylinder walls... but spraying the cylinder walls with fuel will wash the oil film away. I think there may be an issue here.

    Pashak de ScillyPashak de Scilly15 giorni fa
  • Effin hate direct fuel injection! Only good for fuel economy. Clogs after warranty. EJ's were unkillable

    bill killbill kill15 giorni fa
  • I pay ITworlds money so I DON’T HAVE TO WATCH COMMERCIALS.

    Michael HarnessMichael Harness15 giorni fa
  • Great presentation. I really love my EJ engine (and the tone), but totally open to advancements that can provide reliable higher output.

    Clarence HooverClarence Hoover16 giorni fa
  • Planning to get one nextmonth before seeing this video, but now i'll wait for the new one. 😁 thanks to your video. Help me a lot.

    NJC 29NJC 2917 giorni fa
  • Subie fans: "Subaru needs to just give us a new engine, this engine is just so out dated." Subie fans when Subaru gives in: "I don't want that."

    FrostFrost17 giorni fa
  • All subarus share a variation on a similar block The ea series (pre ej) had a 1.6 and a 1.8 version and a 6 cylinder version of the ea called the ER27 then you had the ej series that had a range of sizes with the same block just cylinder bores ranging from 1.6L to 2.5L You can take turbo heads off of a 2008 wrx and put them on your 1.6L 1992 impreza block and it will run with an ecu flash or a dohc spec computer and the computor will think it's just business as usual lol. I have an 99 outback sport and it only ever came with a ej16/ej18/ej22 and i have a 2.5L ej253 in my outback sport running on the stock ecu because almost every subaru engine is the same as long as they have the same type of heads (sohc or dohc) Saying that the wrx and the Forester have the same motor is the same as it has always been. Just different internals, manifolds, heads, and other minor stuff.

    Subaru MechanicSubaru Mechanic17 giorni fa
  • I just wish they can go back to looking like rally cars instead of my sisters nissan sentra

    Hueyi TecuaniHueyi Tecuani17 giorni fa
  • Will they still use the crappy head gaskets?

    Ready For AnythingReady For Anything18 giorni fa
    • @Eskie Man I'll never buy another Subaru, nutsack

      Ready For AnythingReady For Anything10 giorni fa
    • You're living in the past, skippy.

      Eskie ManEskie Man10 giorni fa
  • Bees????? Beadssss????? Buzz buzz buzz Michael...

    faekzfaekz18 giorni fa
  • I feel like this is what Subaru would have done to combat the b58 in the bmw 340i

    Adam KAdam K19 giorni fa
  • The optimist in me wishes for $34,999 msrp. The pessimist in me expects $49,999++ msrp, 😖*GRUMBLING NOISES*😖

    Ultra ALUltra AL19 giorni fa
  • If it has port inject as well, its going to keep the valves clean in the long run. Subaru better not cheap out on that.

    Ultra ALUltra AL19 giorni fa
  • Subaru fans, welcome to GDI territory. Let's all rejoice with the issues of carbon

    gtzgreatridegtzgreatride19 giorni fa
  • 2:30 400whp? That has to be bhp. Subaru makes these huge claims and deliveries short 100% of the time. The current STI is ~(245whp/240ftlb). Wait for the dyno numbers. That being said I'm not going to lie, I'll be first in line when they start accepting down payments.

    Douglas PattisonDouglas Pattison20 giorni fa
  • I had the accent as a loaner car and being stock it feels very quick instant torque

    wrx3123wrx312320 giorni fa
  • Anyone else feels that 1 ITworlds ad second is like 1.5 normal seconds

    Samson MzeraSamson Mzera21 giorno fa
  • Why did the motorcycle change colors

    Dathan DykeDathan Dyke21 giorno fa
  • The big question is this: can the automatic transmission handle the extra engine power?

    John BurketJohn Burket21 giorno fa
  • I really wish they would bring back the regular and original b2b

    Ivan LuIvan Lu22 giorni fa
  • Song at 5:06 ??

    lolgamerzlolgamerz24 giorni fa
  • All was going well until you said the "new engine" won't have the Subie exhaust note. WHATS THE POINT? No, it's over I have left the room.

    nickacelvnnickacelvn24 giorni fa
  • I like the video & Scubarus. BUT Today we're gonna talk about Subaru's new motor (basically a lengthy commercial...I hope we're getting a kick back from Subaru?) But 1st a word from our sponsor that's not Subaru. Ok back to your commercial that you actually chose & wanted to here comes the good part BAM ad. Times 3-6 throughout your lengthy video commercial. ;) Kinda wish he would have covered a lil bit on the oil & antifreeze channels etc / the old motor leak points like gaskets etc. They still need to make an SVX & STI/WRX lower longer wheelbase legacy wagon like the old rare Legacy Grand Tourer Spec-B. Does the FA24 have the same Catalytic converter setups as the old motors, cuz the price has tripled on the cats because all the old cars are starting to need new ones again....

    Curtiss LichtyCurtiss Lichty25 giorni fa
  • so you're saying I can get a 500hp crosstrek....

    Zach UryZach Ury27 giorni fa
  • The sti shoukd have had a 3.3liter h6 with a supercharger making about 425hp stock

    Cyrus LeverCyrus LeverMese fa
  • jaguar f types n frs have the same fuel injection setup

    JikaInFamousJikaInFamousMese fa
  • This body style of subie has been thrown around and flaunted for years now 😂 they will never produce this body its a concept. Thats why im switching back to where i started. 400zx twin turbo here i come. My bugeye will be mine forever but im sick and tired of the ugly basic design of the new imprezzas. Ive waited for years for this body and been let down over and over. Whats the best we got the s209? Sorry subaru you cant produce what you tease with then im out asap!!!! 😠

    shucky duckyshucky duckyMese fa
  • Subaru boxer engine is awesome

  • If Subaru doesn't use Dual Injection DIT/Port true STI enthusiasts will stay away.

    Your Mother should of swallowedYour Mother should of swallowedMese fa
  • Like Ford keeping flat head 8s for 35 years. This is still a maintenance issue engine. The transmission is still junk. Like Ford owners they deny the problems and give them to their kids or park them in the field next to the other Fords they couldn't fix. Definitely a branding issue like Starbucks and birkenstocks.

    Randall PriceRandall PriceMese fa
  • I drive a 2015 STi with 404hp & 480ftq everyday. I have 30K miles on that time and it’s a peach. It’s as simple as a high-quality AOS equal length headers and a flex fuel kit. Those three mods alone will lower the chance of detonation significantly. E85 is the most important one of the three as it really cools down the cylinder walls every time the injector spray. That’s really why E85 is able to make so much power. Last but not least get a proper pro tune and you should be fine like me. I’m running 23.5 psi of boost and when I do my data logging by way of a Cobb acsessport I’m not seeing any knock. Knock on wood

    Skeptical SkeksisSkeptical SkeksisMese fa
  • Whether it’s the FA’s bent connecting rods or the EJ’s piston ring-lands cracking, both fail due to premature fuel detonation. Which is directly related to cylinder temperature, poor fuel quality, lack of maintenance and in some cases people just not knowing how to drive a manual transmission; and would continually bog the engine. All of these things are the cause of knock in Subaru’s boxer engines. ( STi Ownership 101)

    Skeptical SkeksisSkeptical SkeksisMese fa
  • I can't believe that I just wasted 13 minutes of my life listening to the repetitions of bigger, more pressure, stronger, more direct, higher speed, better, newer...

    V SohnV SohnMese fa
  • Quick note, it’s not 400 to the wheels, it’s to the crank.

    bakerbrdzbakerbrdzMese fa
  • Why you trying so hard to sound like someone 😂😂😭 ?

    Totototo CompanyTotototo CompanyMese fa
  • But what’s it sound like

    ReelNewwtReelNewwtMese fa
  • An often made mistake is to consider Boxer and flat engines one and the same, when they aren't actually. In a flat engine (not a boxer), a pairs of pistons share a crankpin. In a true boxer engine, every piston has its own crankpin. The result of the boxer motor’s use of individual crankpins is that the pistons on either side move opposite one another, which helps to cancel out engine vibration. The back-and-forth motion of the pistons resembles the punches of a boxer, which is where the engine gets its name.

    Subarno SinhaSubarno SinhaMese fa
  • This guy looks like Scotty Kilmer’s son

    Young Drew's ProductionYoung Drew's ProductionMese fa
  • I really hope they somehow find a way to keep UEL headers for the new STI's, because that sweet subie rumble is the best car sound to ever exist imo. There's no other sound like it. If the new ones don't have it, I'll stick to old ones.

    SkinnierSteveSkinnierSteveMese fa
  • can the the new 86 have a turbo with this engine pls? 🥺

    Zeus OresZeus OresMese fa
  • They can fix the rear wheel bearings, I'm not getting another one. F this

    Brian HawkBrian HawkMese fa
  • I can't help but think that this is the twilight of the ICE. By the time this one releases, the electric motor would have surpassed it.

    jomax cluxjomax cluxMese fa
  • No more classic subie rumble?? 🥺 Ah, things we do for...MO POWAH BABEH!

    Gear 8883Gear 8883Mese fa
  • Looking forward to getting one of these in Europe, oh wait they're putting speed limiters in cars in 2022 nvm

    Stephen LewisStephen LewisMese fa
  • Aslong as the engine is around the same size as the one it's all good, cuz I'll definitely just take the new engine and put inside a 06 sti instead 😂

    NikkoNikkoMese fa
  • The base models will still receive an upgrade, right?

    FrostFrostMese fa
  • Doesn't everyone want free flowing head !

    pablo ragespablo ragesMese fa
  • Toyota always knows how to make engines more reliable.

    MrMeoow91MrMeoow91Mese fa
  • Cool a new design on the sti aye lol I’m still gonna do up my 02 wrx till I can afford a r33

    DecemberDecemberMese fa
  • Boxer engines are actually flawed, ask any honest mechanic. Boxer engines generally have gasket leaks at 30K miles. GDI engines have excessive carbon buildup at 10K miles. This is the worst combination of engine designs. A new way to do planned obselesence.

    Troy VTroy VMese fa
  • It's a very detailed video. Im a subaru fan with a 2013 wrx pumpkin limited edition. I like both the EJ and the FA, but another area that we need to look is the offset of the connecting rod. While the ones on the EJ are dead top center, the one in the FA sit in an angle. That puts pressure on a single area of the connecting rod. If you put both connecting rod next to each other, you can see the difference. Other than that everything else is great.

    Angel PabonAngel PabonMese fa
  • no offense man, but I had to put on the captions to more or less understand what you were saying. I could mostly understand what you were saying, but you were saying it so fast, a lot of the words ran together.... 0.75x speed was too slow, so I used kept it at normal speed and just turned on captions. I normally watch stuff at 1.25x to get through the babble more quickly, but not this time. Nothing wrong with Subaru changing the motor in their "flagship" car as it way overdue. With as many issues the EJ (EJ25) had, I'm surprised it lasted this long. At least the FA24DIT got seat time in the Ascent so some of the minor hick-ups could be worked out; however, only time will tell how the extra power affects the engine.

    K03sportK03sportMese fa
  • Explain about toyota sai 2010 engine

    Nikil Naveel ChandNikil Naveel ChandMese fa
  • Sick Wolverine snap back bro

    Bradly SullivanBradly SullivanMese fa
  • Just bought my wife an Ascent today - will she notice if I swap in my WRX FA20 in order to put her FA24 into my WRX LTD 6-speed? #savethestick

    Larry GanzLarry GanzMese fa
  • It's great that they have a new engine but I still won't buy any of their vehicles if they still are using the same crappy CVT transmission with no low range.

    blacsdadblacsdadMese fa
  • So many ads on this video it was impossible to watch. Plus you guys got to get rid of those keeps ads.

    damagi123damagi123Mese fa
  • Where do I get a 500 hp crosstrek?

    Crikey CrikeysCrikey CrikeysMese fa
  • The 2022 STI looks like the GTA version of the Civic R

    DorGreen1DorGreen1Mese fa
  • Same unreliable boxer lol

    Bob SagetBob SagetMese fa
  • I love wen he dose bumper to bumper

    Mashaw TuckerMashaw TuckerMese fa
  • You run too many ads, including your own up-front built-in ad. Also, you come across kind of “clownish” by changing your t-shirts & hats during the video...again too much ad man, to be taken seriously for information content.

    James CrawfordJames CrawfordMese fa
  • Put it in a forester. Give us a manual option.

    Three-legged CrowThree-legged CrowMese fa
  • Jeez, how are they gonna squeeze a whole 140hp out of that engine? Im assuming bigger intake, bigger fuel system, higher boost and premium fuel but i wonder how the internals wont nuke. It is a rather large displacement 4 cylinder. I would worry about the crankshaft handling 400hp

    Shawn WarnickShawn WarnickMese fa
  • Did you ever have a STI

    mackgenmackgenMese fa
  • 400hp comon now they can do better then that. Sigh smh 😒

    zerozeroMese fa
  • i just want a flat-6 diesel. dfi is a non-issue at cold-start on a diesel given you have glow plugs to preheat the chamber. more power for displacement (i'm a hauler not a sprinter). heavier parts last longer. etc. and oc a boxer doesn't have the balancing issues of a v or il.

    dhtsoaeds dhtnadidhtsoaeds dhtnadiMese fa
  • anyone else realize at the end of the video he gets cut off

    Omar YOmar YMese fa
  • Sorry to be nitpicky, but is it 400 hp to the wheels or at the crank? If it's to the wheels that's way more than 90 more than the current STi.

    HDRheeHDRheeMese fa
  • My kind of science 😜

    Unboxing JobsUnboxing JobsMese fa
  • But will it sport a manual transmission?

    HunterXrayHunterXrayMese fa